Part 8
The story is that my Ascot build at Jack Lilley's is virtually complete.
Steve has Joe make a guide to keep the speedo cable from chafing on the
Beringer brake. We continue to await the delivery of some white-faced "Ascot"
clocks, although I had some second-thoughts on them, and I do some work on the Ascot TT logo.
Speedo
Cable Guide
A-Wed 02-05-2001 9:07
Let me know if you need to fit a guide for the speedo cable to stop it
chaffing on the Beringer calliper and whether this will mean fitting a longer
cable.
S-Wed 02-05-2001 16:47
I'll
be seeing Joe this morning about it.
S-Sat 05-05-2001 21:16
Joe has made a speedo cable guard. The picture attached shows the holder, it has since
had a
grommet put in to finish it off. I think it looks rather smart.
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Ascot
Clocks
A-Thu 29-03-2001 6:52
Since the higher compression engine in the S3 shows a max rev.
limit of 9700 rpm, is the Legend Tacho still going to be accurate with
regards to the display and the redline?
I've seen some Triumphs with speedos and tachos with white faces.
They look good, I think. Will mine have white faces? Can you get them
without replacing the whole works?
S-Fri 30-03-2001 0:38
The Legend tacho is up to 9250 rpm, it will be ok to use, it really
will not need to be used up to the limit to obtain the best
performance.
It will be nice though since it will be "off the clock"
The T3 Speed Triples had white faces, but they are no good for the
Ascot as we are running a 17" front wheel. We are going to see
if we
can get something done. It would be rather nice to have the white
faces
and an Ascot logo on them.
A-Fri 30-03-2001 1:25
Absolutely!!
A-Sat 31-03-2001 1:58
Talking of which, have you got a .jpg file of the Ascot logo. It
might be useful to have for artwork or even printing T-shirts.
A-Fri 30-03-2001 1:17
The white faces for the speedo and tacho I mentioned, yes or no?
And, does the "redline" still read true with the engine mods?
S-Fri 30-03-2001 21:24
Working on it. I've been in touch with somebody today and am waiting
for
them to get back to me. The rev counter will be fine.
A-Fri 30-03-2001 8:20
The speedo and odo are in Kms, right? HK is metric for roads.
S-Sat 31-03-2001 0:59
We are still Imperial for the roads, although the clocks do have
KMH on the inside of the dial. Is it a problem?
A-Sat 31-03-2001 1:58
For the speedo, not so much of a problem, but the odometer needs to
be in KM. My 95 T-bird is all KM. I thought Triumph just supplied
according to the destination of the bike, in which case swapping it
shouldn't be a problem, should it? Perhaps at the same time you get the
white faces ....
S-Tue 03-04-2001 22:50
We are seeing an instrument company on Friday, with a view to having
speedo's and tacho's made for the Ascot and also sets done for the
Bonneville. I will let you know the outcome.
Steve
is arranging the manufacture of some white-faced "Ascot"
clocks.
S-Fri 06-04-2001 21:58
We had a visit today from an instrument manufacturer, mainly
regarding the Bonneville.
Now the important part for the Ascot. White face speedo and rev
counter with Ascot decals, as long as Mecatwin are ok about it. They are
new units and will have yours made in KPH, the rev counter will have the
"idiot" lights set inside as well. The general idea is to
unclutter the front end which we feel this will achieve. The clocks will
also be able to be fitted to T/Birds as well. This is going to take a
bit of time and we have taken the assembly off of your bike to get them
made to pattern and fit nicely. The current estimate is 4-6 weeks, I
know it is quite a time but we are really excited about this new
project.
As to price we hope that the complete set will be about 350.00 ready
to bolt straight on, inc tax as well. Quite a bit cheaper than buying an
original.
A-Sat 07-04-2001 7:11
This is good news. Apart from the added cost, but .... a project is a
project! At least I won't have to pay the VAT. Who's the instrument
company? The famous one used to be Smiths. Don't know if they still
exist? Hope they keep to their estimated delivery time, otherwise the
shipping of my Ascot is going to get delayed. Oh well! Patience ....
Rainy season anyway from mid-May.
The .jpg you sent of the Ascot
logo is not really working. It's because of the warped effect where it is
wrapped around the side panel. I wonder if you could as Mecatwin to give you
an original Bitmap file, i.e. .bmp of the logo, then we would have a clean
copy for paper use, web pages and T-shirts etc.
S-Sat 07-04-2001 16:08
I was rather afraid of
that. I have already contacted Mecatwin
about the logo, as we will need a good copy
for the speedo/tacho set. Will let you know
once I have something.
S-Mon 09-04-2001 23:53
The
company are from Germany, the old Eastern side. They were OE suppliers to
Trabant! But now supply the likes of MZ and Ducati
Performance. They are very keen on
supplying us and are making every effort.
A-Tue 10-04-2001 20:34
Do
they have a name? How did you get on to them?
I
trust they are going to use black cases, rather than chrome one, in line with
the rest of the stuff on the bars.
S-Tue 10-04-2001 23:09
They
actually got onto us via the factory. The factory knew that we were keen
on having a Tacho made for the Bonneville and knew that this company would
be able to manufacture.
The
company is Nova MMB Messtecknik.
Of
course they will use black.
Wondering
About the "Ascot" Clocks
A-Wed 02-05-2001 8:38
I'm wondering if I'm
doing the right thing with the clocks, given that:
(a) we still haven't sorted the logo;
(b) we're dealing with an unknown quantity and non-Triumph parts
(c) they are holding up delivery and the Ascot is just sitting in your
workshop gathering dust etc.?
(d) the current Speed Triple clocks are white, look good and the speedo comes
of 17" wheel - see attached picture
Would the current
Speed Triple clocks work with the Ascot - fitting and connections?
Does the temp. gauge take the same sender feed as the temp. warning light?
Triumph do make a kilometre version of them, yes?
S-Wed 02-05-2001 16:39
The
clock choice is yours, of course.
The
company making them, I discovered, are doing the OE ones for a new CCM
coming out in a couple of months time and they will be using the same
style rev counter, with the lights around the rev counter. In fact it
was CCM who put them in touch with us as well as Triumph, nice to be popular.
I
must admit that I am really keen on the new clocks and think they will suit
the bike. The new Speed Triple ones would not work, there are too many
wiring changes.
I
will try and see if we can chase MMD up and get a firm delivery date.
A-Thu 03-05-2001 18:09
I didn't mean to
sound ungrateful over the clocks. I'll trust your judgement. It's just that
I've only got limited information and I haven't even seen a picture or
anything yet. Glad to know they are a trusted firm. Did you take any pictures of the clocks or do you have any
copies of the designs?
Good idea to try and tie them down to a delivery date. Should be possible,
after all the firm is German and not French! Obviously, I can't let it drag
out forever, otherwise Autumn will be here and I still won't have an Ascot and
the EPD exemption will have expired. Nightmare! Please keep me posted.
S-Wed 09-05-2001 0:19
The
clock company are sending us the OE clocks back, so I will get those fitted on to
make it standard and forward you the new ones once they are ready. This should
at least mean we can ship a bit quicker.
A-Wed 09-05-2001 1:10
I'm
OK with this idea, provided the fit of the new ones will be no more involved
that using the existing mounting AND existing wiring / cable connections to
the lights, speedo and tacho. Please confirm.
A-Tue 22-05-2001 2:21
Any news on the Ascot clocks?
A-Wed 23-05-2001 8:44
Did
you tie the krauts down to a delivery date on the "Ascot" clocks?
S-Thu 24-05-2001 23:44
How
close is East Germany to Italy? Seems they work about the same, the best
we could get is "3 weeks about".
A-Sat 26-05-2001 10:32
OK,
whenever they are ready. Just hope fitting the Ascot clocks is relatively straightforward.
Will the OE cables and wiring for the idiot lights just plug straight in or is
any adaptation required?
S-Sat 26-05-2001 16:41
We
have asked the German company to produce the unit so that they will just plug
as the originals. Just hope nothing was
lost in the translation!
Ascot
TT Logo
A-Sat 05-05-2001 21:58
You
probably haven't had time to do much about this, so I've just spent 4 hours
working a photograph into a bitmap and then back into .gif format!
Do you think it's good enough to reproduce in print or on the clocks?
From
this photo,
to these images.
S-Sun 06-05-2001 0:04
I can
see the amount of work you have done. I will have a word with the
company next week and see what they say.
S-Wed 09-05-2001 0:19
The logos have come out well and are sending
them on, thanks for your work on them.
A-Wed 09-05-2001 1:10
Make
use of the logos in whichever way you can - adverts, "T" shirts,
stickers???
I
also made up an Ascot poster for Steve, integrating the Triumph, Mecatwin,
Ascot TT and Jack Lilley logos and a picture of Steve's Ascot.
A-Tue 03-07-2001 13:12
Hope
you like it!
S-Tue 03-07-2001 15:32
The
poster is brilliant, we all liked it ever so much. You will now have to do one
for yours.
Delayed!
S-Thu 05-07-2001 17:34
Brian
spoke to the clock people yesterday and it seems that there will be a delay in
getting them done. The best they could come up with is September/October, they
have just had a big contract from CCM to supply so we have gone to the back of
the queue, although the Bonny tacho is nearly ready for us.
A-Thu 05-07-2001 20:19
In
which case, I sorely tempted to say forget it. It means if I mount them later
I will never have an accurate record of the bike's mileage. On the other hand,
they hopefully will look good and I'll have the speedo / odo in kms.
Decisions, decisions!
S-Thu 05-07-2001 22:07
Lets
just see what they look like, there is no pressure on you to have a set.
A-Fri 06-07-2001 2:44
Fair
enough. Did you ever get a picture or drawing?
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